COUNCIL QUARTET WANTS CITY MANAGER TO DEVISE VIOLENCE PLAN IN 90 DAYS
By Dave Wielenga
With police numbers falling, replacements deemed unaffordable and bullets flying in his district, Long Beach City Council member Robert Garcia—Mayor Bob Foster’s choice to chair the Public Safety Committee—has come up with a proposal for dealing with the city’s violence: make City Manager Pat West solve the problem … and fast.
Garcia and three colleagues—Patrick O’Donnell (4th district), Dee Andrews (6th district) and Steve Neal (9th district)—will present their suggestion at tonight’s council meeting, in item No. 13 on the agenda. It reads: “Recommendation to request City Manager to draft a comprehensive Violence Prevention Plan and report back to City Council for approval
within 90 days.”
According to an attached letter prepared by Garcia’s office, the motivation for the proposal—and the hurry—is the opportunity to go after federal funds.
“The National Forum on Youth Violence Prevention was created in 2010 by the Obama Administration to assist cities in preventing and addressing youth violence. Cities with a comprehensive Violence Prevention Plan are eligible to receive grants from the Federal Government to help these localities,” says a key paragraph of the letter.
Garcia’s proposal has caught many people by surprise, including Dr. Lydia Hollie, who has been at the center of Long Beach’s response to youth violence since 1996. Hollie’s work with two community-police collaborations (Youth and Gang Violence Prevention Task Force and Gang Reduction, Intervention and Prevention Project (LBGRIP Project) has coincided with federal and state grants totaling $1.4 million since 2003 and statistically significant drops in violent crime.
“I got an e-mail on Friday, actually—that’s how I learned of it,” said Hollie. “What surprised me is that it doesn’t include any of the work that’s already transpired in Long Beach. On the basis of Council member Garcia’s narrative, he was either unaware of it or he ignored it.”
Hollie suggests that Garcia’s strategy is an intellectual shortcut and financially wasteful.
“We have done so many strategic plans—on early childhood education, older adults or even the city’s 2010 plan, or the 2030 generational plan,” she says. “They are living documents. These plans were funded and written for the purpose of providing guidance and direction. And they took a lot longer than 90 days to research, analyze and write.”
Garcia’s letter begins by citing the effects of violence and crime on “a community’s economic health, as well as individuals’ physical and mental health and well-being.” It cites homicide as the No. 2 cause of death for American youth and notes that 656,000 people between 10 and 24 were treated in emergency rooms for violence-related reasons in 2008.
But its ultimate objective is blatantly financial, reading: “The Violence Prevention Plan will qualify the City for significant new revenue streams to which it is not currently entitled.”
Hollie reacts to this in an offended tone.
“The statistics that were used represent real people,” she said. “Homicide rates are real people. The numbers of people arrested, injured, incarcerated—those are constituents. But they say the purpose of this proposal is to apply for federal dollars? Are you kidding me? What are they doing? These are our children.
“What if they do all this, apply for the funding—and the dollars are not forthcoming? Is the plan just put on the shelf? Is that where we put our children, too?”
















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So long as cities like Long Beach continue to go begging to the federal government for funding on *any* matter, the federal government will continue to devise programs to provide those funds…and it will attach a considerable number of strings right along with it.
It doesn’t seem to matter to most city officials that, under the current national fiscal realities, none of these deficit-spent dollars should be either asked, offered *or* accepted. All that seems to matter is that the Fed is offering a grant so we should be applying for it.
But it is all taxpayer money…or, more accurately, taxpayer indebtedness, since we do not *have* the money and since the only solution Congress can seem to come up with is whether or not to “raise the debt ceiling” yet again.
Perhaps if they, instead, called it “digging the hole deeper” some people might start to understand what is really happening and demand that it be stopped.
Somehow I doubt it, though.
Why is any of this needed? Why is Garcia wasting everyone’s time? According to Police Chief McDonnell and Mayor Foster, there is no crime in Long Beach. You can read their announcement in the below link.
http://belmontshore.patch.com/articles/long-beach-saw-the-lowest-homicide-rate-since-1971
Furthermore, I just read an article last week where Police Chief McDonnell announced his new technology advancements to eliminate crime.
http://belmontshore.patch.com/articles/long-beach-police-reveal-new-tech-tools
What’s the big deal anyways? So what if a few residents get killed. After all, what counts is we keep the Queen Mary, Aquarium, Long Beach Art Museum and Colorado Lagoon fully funded.
so…we shouldnt take federal money, even if it means less dead people in LB, because your twisted ideology is against it. fuck that.
Sounds like “Dr.” Holly has her panties in a bind because someone else is feeding at her trough. There is no scientific proof that any federally funded or state funded program Ms. Holly has undertaken in Long Beach has directly resulted in a reduction in youth violence or crime in the Long Beach area(s) where her programs were implemented. Will Ms. Holly continue her program(s) when the money runs out in their current area(s) or will she follow the funding somewhere else? Her program(s) are not a waste of funding? Somebody needs to take a hard look at her program(s) and the long-term results of those money pits. A general drop in crime is not proof that her specific programs had any effect on the level of crime or youth violence.
By the way, Dr. Holly insists on being called Doctor because she has a law degree. I have worked with many practicing attorneys and not one was egotistical enough to insist they be addressed as Doctor. What a community gem…and people complain about Mr. Garcia’s ego. Mr. Garcia is being vilified because he failed to kiss Dr. Holly’s ass. BFD. Have Ms. Holly’s program(s) addressed violence in the 1st District? If not, who is she to Mr. Garcia? Ms. Holly is not the only person who can get federal funds for violence prevention in Long Beach nor should she be.
All Mr. Greet is saying is that more money for,”programs” has not been effective in solving many problems in Long Beach, because the people who go for the grants see that as the end rather than a beginning. They see their job as going for the money and not solving the bigger problems. A lot of this is because many of the 100K club, fire, and cops don’t live here. They see this as an undesirabel place to get through as fast as they can on the way to Orange County or PV. They don’t have their heart into it and are blind to the reality of poverty that has become necessary for their paychecks.
Where is my comment I submitted yesterday?
Mr. Ruehle’s comment, that according to Police Chief McDonnell and Mayor Foster, there is no crime in Long Beach, is entirely *false* and the article he linked to support his fallacious claim does not state what he asserts that it does.
Mr. Ruehle’s comment, that Police Chief McDonnell announced his new technology advancements to eliminate crime, is also entirely *false* and the article he linked to support his fallacious claim does not state what he asserts that it does.
Mr. Ruehle really should desist from making false statements on public fora like this one and asserting them as fact, rather than the utterly erroneous hyperbole that they truly are. This unfortunate habit of falsehoods on his part does absolutely *nothing* to elevate the dialog or encourage constructive discourse and only serves to undermine opportunities to arrive at reasonable and productive solutions to the many legitimate public policy challenges Long Beach currently faces.
Greet is a liar. Don’t rely on his word. You need to read the articles for your self.
Mr. Ruehle is mistaken concerning his unfounded assertion regarding my honesty.
I, too, encourage others to read the articles for themselves. I challenge anyone, including Mr. Ruehle, to quote the specific passage from this article in which Police Chief McDonnell and Mayor Foster claimed that there is no crime in Long Beach.
http://belmontshore.patch.com/articles/long-beach-saw-the-lowest-homicide-rate-since-1971
Likewise I challenge anyone, including Mr. Ruehle, to quote the specific passage from this article that states that Police Chief McDonnell announced his new technology advancements to eliminate crime.
http://belmontshore.patch.com/articles/long-beach-police-reveal-new-tech-tools
No one will be able to quote those passages because they do not exist in those articles. They only exist in the mind of Mr. Ruehle, who is habitually cynical and denigrating of all things LBPD.
Thus Mr. Ruehle’s claim that those passages exist in those articles is, and remains, *false.*
Mr. Ruehle seems to be consistently challenged on the difference between fact and fiction. All Mr. Ruehle has engaged in here is unfounded and erroneous hyperbole, which is fine unless and until he asserts his hyperbole as fact. At that point I choose to call him on it and he doesn’t seem to like that very much.
Reasonable people should ask themselves why that might be.
John Greet is a recently retired Long Beach Cop. Need I say more.
Yes, Mr. Ruehle, if it is your desire to be believed then you certainly do need to say more. Supporting your comments, here, with objectively verifiable evidence would make all of the difference between their being seen as factual or the entirely fllacious hyperbole I believe that they are.
You stated: “According to Police Chief McDonnell and Mayor Foster, there is no crime in Long Beach. You can read their announcement in the below link.
http://belmontshore.patch.com/articles/long-beach-saw-the-lowest-homicide-rate-since-1971”
Either cite the specific segment of that article in which Police Chief McDonnell and Mayor Foster announced what you claim, or acknowledge that what you said was false.
You stated that you: “…just read an article last week where Police Chief McDonnell announced his new technology advancements to eliminate crime.
http://belmontshore.patch.com/articles/long-beach-police-reveal-new-tech-tools”
Either cite the specific segment of that article in which Police Chief McDonnell and announced what you claim, or acknowledge that what you said here was also false.
The truth is the truth, Mr. Ruehle. If what you said in these two instances is true, then it should be easy enough for you to prove it.
So either prove it or admit that what you said was false.
Or keep doing what you have been…attempting to deflect attention from your two most recent falsehoods.
And as with all such direct challenges to Mr. Ruehle concerning his occasional false, fraudulent, and misleading comments, five days since he has been asked to prove his assertions and the silence from him remains quite deafening.
Typical Ruehle debate tactic: Toss out unsubstantiated information…fail to offer proof…when asked to prove his comments…deflect, ignore and offer insult to the person requesting proof.
It would be laughable were it not so very sad.
For further evidence that having NO background knowledge or understanding of ANY facts on a subject matter ever dissuades John Greet from commenting, read the comments on the current Greater Long Beach article regarding Rene Castro’s re-election on an Advisory Committee.
John Greet’s comment: “Sincere congratulations to Ms. Castro and all of the other electees!”
Rene Castro happens to be a man. However Greet doesn’t prevent small details such as this from scolding other people to get their facts straight. What a hypocrite.
Thank you very much for the correction. I have never met Mr. Castro and the article concerning his re-election did not mention gender. My sincere apologies to Mr. Castro for the inadvertent error, however, the congratulations were entirely sincere.
Five days. No offering of proof from Mr. Ruehle. No objectively verifiable evidence that the claims he made here were true. no admission that they were false. And no particular surprise either.
Ten days…no offering of proof from Mr. Ruehle, no objectively verifiable evidence, no admission of false assertions, and still no surprise.
Fifteen days…no offering of proof from Mr. Ruehle, no objectively verifiable evidence, no admission of false assertions, and still no surprise.
I am fascinated with the dialogue between Greet & Ruehle. I personally don’t know either individual. But I have read every post here and in the Patch.com article regarding Hines. I have come to the conclusion Ruehle must have lived his entire life with no respect for authority of any kind. I actually wonder if Ruehle was raised with a father or male figure in his life. He’s a sad man. Seems like he has a very empty life. Some one who knows him should give him a hug!