ALL WRITEY!! COMMENT PERIOD ON SECOND+PCH’S BEGINS … YESTERDAY!
By Greater Long Beach
The clock is supposed to start today—the day the Environmental Impact Report for the Second+PCH project is scheduled to be released—on a 45-day period of public comment. But GreaterLongBeach.com readers got a head start yesterday, and their comments were in mid-45-day-period form:
What does [lead developer David] Malmuth care how this monolith will violate zoning codes and destroy transportation on my side of town? Malmuth lives in San Diego, where he seldom, if ever, creates monstrosities that impact his quality of life. / MIKE RUEHLE
I really hope this project gets passed as originally designed; the current SEADIP zoning reflects the attitudes of a car-dependent culture of nearly half a century ago. Long Beach is moving toward more urban living (which I think is much better for the people and the environment). The added traffic reflects the anticipated added value to this area. I associate traffic with vibrancy and life in a neighborhood—it’s not always a bad thing. This development will bring so much more to the area than what is currently there (or possible with current zoning) that the trade-off of some extra traffic is worth it. If you’re so concerned about the possibility of a couple extra minutes spent in your car getting through one of the largest intersections in one of California’s largest cities because of a new development that will bring world-class architecture, retail, public space, and amenities to the currently under-served area, then perhaps you should consider a move to a smaller town. Or get on a bike. Long Beach doesn’t have time for your outdated and narrow-minded views on what happens to one of the most important parcels in town. / BAKTAAH SORKHABI
Mr. Sorkhabi, I realize you’re only about a year or two out of Cal State Long Beach (according to your LinkedIn profile), but some of us who have lived in Long Beach a bit longer than you—and who are invested in this city so much that we actually OWN property here—happen to think that discussion should be part of the development process. If you don’t like that, I’m sure you can go somewhere else. / THEO DOUGLAS
David Malmuth, you are so cavalier about what you want and how you are going to get it. Why don’t you, as Mike Ruehle states, go back to San Diego and work your “magic” where people can tell you every day how they feel about your projects? Instead, you choose to build melancholic monoliths and then tell us who live here not to worry—you will change the character of our neighborhood because you will change the current zoning that has served us very well. In addition, tell the Lins-Taki Sun that if they put a lot of money into that property, they withheld a lot more money to deliberately let the property become a slum (no kidding they are slumlords) and if you either read the reviews or visit the site, you would say they should be ashamed. Don’t tell me they deserve a “payback” for what they did to this “iconic” hotel; they deserve to get what they gave us—ignominy. / DAUGHTER OF DIOGENES
Seems to me David Malmuth is getting a bit nervous and antsy about this project—of course, he’s been working on it for six years—first with Lennar (who bailed) and now with Second +PCH (where two key members of the team bailed). A frantic grab for support is now on line: A video of Malmuth speaking with the written message “Students at CSULB have the chance to help us make Second and PCH happen and all they have to do is join the web site and comment on the project. AND as a thank you for your interest we’ll be giving away 5 brand-spanking new-iPAD 2’s. Summit your letter of support now. Fill out this form, (a form letter to Mayor Bob is up) and we will send a letter for you.” Marketing or exploitation? Did Dave Wielenga find out how Malmuth intends to “amend” SEADIP, and with whose help—one can only guess! I can understand how frustrated Mr. Malmuth must be with our protective SEADIP zoning. That parcel is zoned for a height not to exceed 35 feet and residential is not allowed. He doesn’t mention the citywide SEADIP survey which showed the citizens wanted no more height or density there. In fact, the No. 1 choice by respondents was a destination hotel; retail came in way down the list. The revised EIR will be interesting, and Malmuth cannot blame the city if it isn’t to his liking. As explained, the EIR is written with the information the developers give them. Last time, it just wasn’t good enough. / LARRY
















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If it is true Malmuth is recruiting Cal State students to steam roll this project through, that is terrible.
I’m going to agree strongly with Theo Douglas, and call out people who don’t live here and aren’t paying a mortgage and property taxes here for supporting this project. Isn’t there already enough empty retail space in town? Why can’t something interesting be don’t save some of the historical aspects of some of the architecture currently on site? Why do we constantly tear down and rebuild? And honestly–who is going to benefit the most from this project? Long Beach residents, or the developers and the good ol’ boys club at city hall while the residents subsidize “business” investment at the expense of teachers and cops?
Right on City Girl – I, too, have visited the site – the STENCH of the soiled carpeting, bathroom and floors, etc., etc., made me almost vomit – talk about
“Slum Landlords” – this is a disgrace for the city to let this property deteriorate – I for one want a decent small hotel to show the “Village atmosphere” Those of us that live in the area have already made our opinions very clear. NO 12 STORY HOTEL.
There is no reason for this 12 story monstrosity except greed. This property is not an eyesore and does not need to be demolished. It is just the way to line the pockets of G. De Long’s friends.
Theo and LBCityGirl were very quick to dismiss my argument simply on grounds that I am ‘too young’ and/or not ‘invested’ enough in Long Beach. Really? Well I attend school, work and live in this fine city of Long Beach. I am a tax payer and proud resident of a restored downtown building. I have been a positive contributor to LB for over 6 years, and plan on staying here for many more. My pride in this city is so high I convinced some friends and even my parents to make a move to Long Beach, creating new property owners and tax payers for the city.
Many of my fellow contemporaries hold very similar views and optimism like myself. While some of you commenters on here might be older and possibly have more ‘roots’ here, our young age means we will be around here much longer and have more of an interest toward making Long Beach a more urban, livable city in the years to come. But please, continue your arguments on keeping this fine city stuck in an auto-centric, generic, and unsustainable path. I always enjoy reading and negating them!
Baktaah, I’ve not seen a name like that before, but anyways, M Ruehl commented earlier that you worked for some company involved in some way with this project. If true, I understand your passion, but if not, can you elaborate what it is about this project that you and many of your fellow contemporaries find so irresistible about it?
Baktaah ~
You say you live downtown and you have the high-rises & traffic you want, good for you. I live in a quiet & unique neighborhood called Naples Island, and like those living in Marina Pacifica there are but a few ways in and out of our homes. Summer finds the Davies Bridge bottled necked in traffic. We do not have the luxury of choosing to visit these already impacted intersections. The residents here have a master plan for this area called SEADIP just so this city has diversity. We do not want Alamitos Bay to become another Marina Del Rey. Already other developers are in line to build up here they are just waiting to see how Malumuth pulls this off. These developers want to cash in and could care less about our quality of life. We will fight them. There should be something for everyone in this city, you stay downtown and enjoy the life there. When you feel like a change visit us in the East where height & density limits protect calm open wetlands & sanctuary for wildlife. Alamitos Bay ~ water, sky & open spaces imagine! Please visit the SEADIP site so that you will understand the vision the citizens of this area have planned for.
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The Seaport Resort Hotel could be re-positioned as a upscale resort as Rickie’s Studio Inn was in Palo Alto. All it takes is a new owner.
Failing that, this would be an exellent senior citizen location because of the spacious grounds.
These grounds will be lost to Long Beach forever if the high rise happens !!