BEYOND GREATER: A MUST-READ STORY WE DIDN’T WRITE—PELOSI’S TRIUMPH
By Greater Long Beach
PELOSI’S TRIUMPH: THE DEMOCRATS DIDN’T LOSE THE BATTLE OF 2010. THEY WON IT: Writing in Slate, William Saleton says that ”if health care did cost the [Democratic] party its majority, so what? The bill was more important than the election… The big picture isn’t about keeping power. It’s about using it.” And he contends the health-care bill Nancy Pelosi pushed through is forever. READ IT HERE
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To interpet what happened in this recent election as anything other than a thorough electoral insult to Democrats and a decisive repudiation of the liberal agenda in general is to employ…what did SecState Clinton once call it…a willing suspension of disbelief.
Mr. Saletan opines that “The big picture isn’t about winning or keeping power. It’s about using it.” Actually, in this case, the big picture for Democrats has not been the use of power, but the *abuse* of it.
Much of the electorate is becoming so fed up with the Democrats chronic abuse of power and legislative over-reaching that the only way to make that crystal clear was to toss out more elected Democrats from more House seats and State offices than has occurred since the early 20th century.
Spinning such an unequivocal political defeat is one thing, denying the self-evident reasons for that defeat is just plain nonsense. Senator Pelosi had control of the House and the people took it back from her and delivered it into the hands of those we believe can do better by us.
Obamacare is bad enough, but it’s really just the largest and most recent symptom among so many othes of the real illness…liberalism run quite literally amok. There will always remain bastions of liberalism in places like New York and California, but in the nation overall, at least for now, a voice of reason has been raised.
It’s too bad Pelosi and others like her do not seem capable of hearing it.
yawn.
johnny one note.
give me a break, John.
I realize the truth of this mid-term election may be difficult to accept for many liberal true-believers, Ms. LB. But the truth remains the truth nonetheless.
But now the hard work for conservatives begins in earnest, as they struggle with the monumental task of slowing, stopping and and then, eventually, reversing the horribly damaging course of liberalism that President Obama and his willing dupes in Congress set our nation upon in 2008.
I’ve all but given up hope for any such necessary change in California…the state of my birth and the place I will always consider to be home…but for our nation, I see an important opportunity to get government back under more active and conservative control of a tue majority of the people, rather than just a majority of those who happen to bother to vote.
People like howardx affect boredom with my consistent themes of smaller, more limited and less costly and intrusive government but that doesn’t concern me. I’m sure a lot of loyalists in the 18th century also regularly affected boredom when our nation’s founders constantly harped on the need to create an independent national society and government that was centered more around the people and less around an insular and intrusive central government.
People like howardx have the luxury of being bored while others around him continue do the heavy lifting to try to keep government small, less costly and tightly controlled.
what a load of bs, rw extremists such as yourself only cry about “smaller govt” when they arent in charge, when they were in charge they expanded the size of government AND the national debt 10 fold WHERE WERE YOU THEN GREET? point me to your online articles criticizing the bush administration for expanding govt and the national debt, you cant do it can you greet? because when your party was in charge you didnt lift a finger or a voice to complain about anything did you? because like most RW extremists YOU ARE A GIANT HYPOCRITE.
howardx, having been an enthusiastic antagonist of mine for some time on various websites now, I’m sure you’ll be willing to acknowledge that I have always advocated for smaller, less expensive and less intrusive government, at all levels. It doesn’t matter to me what party has control du jour and unlike some conservatives I have *never* exempted military or national security spending from scrutiny, analysis or possible cuts.
Wherever republicans unncessarly expand the size, cost and intrusiveness of government, they depart from the true path of political conservatism and should not be re-elected. Period.
I no longer have access to my old LBPOST.com column archives but I would encourage you to review them if you do. From the very beginning of that column my advocacy in this area has never changed. Not once, and since you have lodged the accusation it is rightly your burden to *prove* and not mine to *disprove*.
I would respectfully suggest that offering personal insults to those with whom you happen to disagree in no way moves conversations like these in productive or constructive directions. Perhaps doing so is not your goal. If that’s the case, then I think we’re done. I have neither the time nor the energy to waste on conversations that serve no productive or constructive purpose.
Be well sir!
its not my goal, we’re done. i am not seeking accord with the people destroying the country.
howardx, I’ll take you at your word and accept your voluntary admission that it is not your goal to move conversations like these in productive or constructive directions. Thanks very much for that clarification, sir.
To others who are reading who might be interested in doing what howardx has now openly admitted he is not, I welcome any and all civil and respectful dialog on why you feel this midterm election could possibly be construed as anything other than what I suggested: A thorough electoral insult to Democrats and a decisive repudiation of the liberal agenda in general.”
asshole to the end.
The above conversation is such a staple of party bickering, it’s become a cliche. Far left dems most often get emotional and crazy in a debate. Republicans, while many can indeed be assholes. rarely do this.
As far as I can tell, the problem is both far-leaning factions of these parties honestly believe in Magic. Repubs think the poor will magically raise themselves by their own bootstraps, and Dems believe that money for their programs are shit out from the asses of millions of incontinent fairies.
Dem: …and the fairies will provide for…
Repub: wait… what? You don’t believe in fairies do you?
Dem: What are you, a nazi?
R: Uh… no, but there are no fairies. Taxpayers will have to-
D: Who the fuck put that shit into your fucking head?
R: I dunno. Science classes? All my personal experience?
D: Well, maybe you’d like to speak to all the people who attend FAIRIE CONVENTIONS! I’m sure THEY would like the HEAR it!
R: …um… can I… finish?
D: Hope you have evidence! Prove there isn’t! Prove it!
R: Well… I guess I remember Carl Sagan talking about why we have myths, and–
D: Carl Sagan! He was on FOX! NEXT!
R: Why don’t you let me finish?
D: Dude… ya know… FUCK you, okay? I’m done with this shit. Fucking asshole to the end!
R: …’kay.
Jason, That was entertaining! Well, said, sir! And, at least for my part, I apologize if my “party bickering” is tiresome and annoying. Like howardx, I am passionate in my beliefs in this area. Unlike him, though, I think we should all be able to be passionate while remaining respectful and courteous toward one another.